Subject	More modern engines can run synthetic from the start
Posted by	vulcanrush on March 16, 2013 at 5:19 PM
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In Reply To	So I have an interesting question then.. If it's recommended posted by PiotrC70 on March 16, 2013 at 03:50 PM
Message	For our cars, I still use conventional to break in engines. Road & Track said, "we can only conclude that improvements in cylinder-wall finish and ring design or materials makes this possible." I know Porsche and Nissan (for the GTR) break in their engines on a dyno at the factory, as the hawk alluded to.
Follow Ups	Oil recommendation - NextZ 11:00:26 03/16/13 start here http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/motor-oil-101/ (n/m) - SMAZ (OKC) 11:14:29 03/16/13 I use Amsoil filter and 10w30 signature series - Zvil (FL) 11:15:47 03/16/13 I would get an UOA before running it 10k miles - vulcanrush 12:13:41 03/16/13 I ran the 0w30 on my oem engine until 165K. - ShakaShaun(Denver) 16:21:03 03/16/13 Re: I ran the 0w30 on my oem engine until 165K. - vulcanrush 17:37:50 03/16/13 I did get a few UOA's awhile back but my changes were not - ShakaShaun(Denver) 18:41:29 03/16/13 Mobil and rotella prices - vulcanrush 19:37:40 03/16/13 Depending on what you get it's $9-11 per quart. (n/m) - ShakaShaun(Denver) 23:06:13 03/16/13 To be fair I sell Amsoil so it's cheaper for me - Zvil (FL) 00:22:01 03/17/13 i think there's a conflict of interest :) - vulcanrush 18:22:48 03/17/13 The normal price for mobil 1 extended performance - Zvil (FL) 20:31:50 03/17/13 Shell rotella t6 5w-40. My motor loves this stuff (n/m) - AHos(Chicago) 11:24:59 03/16/13 +1 (n/m) - Lumpydonut 11:51:44 03/16/13 +2 (n/m) - The Hawk 12:34:30 03/16/13 Re: Shell rotella t6 5w-40. My motor loves this stuff - KA8 13:02:15 03/16/13 +3 (n/m) - BlackholeZ 13:03:30 03/16/13 3rd - Drk93TT 19:00:36 03/16/13 Care to elaborate a little? (n/m) - MeatMan - 604Z.ca - 19:33:05 03/16/13 IDK what there is to elaborate on... - AHos(Chicago) 20:51:00 03/16/13 Motorcycle guys swear by it. - Lumpydonut 10:56:36 03/17/13 So do the EJ257 Subie guys. That's how I got hooked - BigTDogg (MA) 17:27:33 03/17/13 That's what I'm using also. (n/m) - my91z 19:59:25 03/16/13 Been thinking about making the switch to Mobile1 0-40. - PiotrC70 12:01:16 03/16/13 20w50 royal purple per Greg at SZ. - AwesomeZ32 14:32:06 03/16/13 I thought Greg had said that but couldnt find the quote. - ZXoltan 16:53:25 03/16/13 Running 20w50 RP also, per Greg. stock longblock (n/m) - scoops 18:40:52 03/16/13 Same here but only the HPS 20w-50 (n/m) - Evan_Wright (Ca) 20:16:05 03/16/13 I would STRONGLY suggest only using the HPS 20W-50 (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 20:22:14 03/16/13 HPS? (n/m) - FuerGrissa 21:17:03 03/16/13 Royal Purple HPS - BigTDogg (MA) 21:17:58 03/16/13 Yup (n/m) - Evan_Wright (Ca) 22:29:50 03/16/13 Why is that? Care to elaborate? - ZXRider 07:10:01 03/17/13 S y n e r l e c - BigTDogg (MA) 08:19:43 03/17/13 If thats true, their website is very misleading: - ZXoltan 11:47:52 03/17/13 It is true, I have a bottle of old "regular" RP before the - BigTDogg (MA) 12:09:18 03/17/13 Re: my post above, two new on left, old on right: - BigTDogg (MA) 12:15:44 03/17/13 Just having a high Zinc content isn't the only factor - ZXRider 13:19:24 03/17/13 For your reading pleasure. Scroll down a few posts - ZXRider 13:25:46 03/17/13 Thanks for the link! Now that is good info (n/m) - ttsmokin 14:17:21 03/17/13 My pleasure. I try to learn as much as I can about - ZXRider 16:15:49 03/17/13 Yeah, doesnt seem like type of oil matters so much - ZXoltan 15:26:21 03/17/13 To be honest I don't know. It's just that - ZXRider 15:49:44 03/17/13 Agreed. But according to that link the HPS performed worse - ZXoltan 21:29:01 03/17/13 Good link, thanks, but I'm definitely not overthinking it :) - BigTDogg (MA) 17:16:48 03/17/13 *flashpoint falls (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 17:32:26 03/17/13 I have a sample on the way to Blackstone - ZXRider 17:45:56 03/17/13 or you guys can just buy regular-off-the-shelf-at-dozens - LJZTT 08:26:07 03/18/13 Meh, agree to disagree. Wouldn't be the first time - BigTDogg (MA) 12:05:30 03/18/13 + 1 (n/m) - arrowenterprises 19:31:05 03/17/13 So I have an interesting question then.. If it's recommended - PiotrC70 15:50:43 03/16/13 Maybe bc they break them in at the factory..? - The Hawk 16:49:42 03/16/13 It all depends on factory cylinder hone finish - Zorpman 17:07:14 03/16/13 Thanks for the well written answer. Makes sense. (n/m) - PiotrC70 17:14:53 03/16/13 Interesting read, thanks for the info. (n/m) - Polish 00:35:38 03/17/13 More modern engines can run synthetic from the start - vulcanrush 17:19:53 03/16/13 Mobil 1 0w-40 or 0w-50 racing oil (n/m) - Piranha 19:09:08 03/16/13 Be careful with racing oil, most meant for short term only (n/m) - ttsmokin 14:22:22 03/17/13 I think M1 5w50 is the very best for higher milage Zs - Polish 03:00:25 03/17/13 I'll have to check Napa, it's been a unicorn around here (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 17:18:05 03/17/13 unless you have some extreme circumstances, just get - LJZTT 08:32:35 03/18/13
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